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2:36 pm June 9, 2011
| Kevin4000
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Rip recommends some instant soups to keep handy in the kitchen pantry, such as Imagine and Pacific soups. But I checked them out at Whole Foods market and they have either oil, or milk products listed in the ingredients. I am confused because the E2 diet calls for elimination of oils and milk products, or are these trace amounts alowwed?
McDougall's soups don't list any oils in the ingredients, but do have fat content – what is the source of this fat? Also why do McDougalls list the ingredients on their packaging under the title "Best Ingredients", and not simply "Ingredients"?
I would like to know if these products are ok to eat (I am eliminating all oils, as I am being strict to try reverse heart disease), or should I simply steer clear?
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3:47 pm June 9, 2011
| thatcrazyvegan
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I imagine that Rip is trying to give people who are very busy an option when there is no time to cook a better-for-you dinner.
If you have a box of soup around you will eat that instead of McDonalds or someting that is worse for you. He expects you to take the time to cook most of your meals according to the plan and then offers something to keep in your pantry for those days when nothing goes right and you are standing in your kitchen…hungry and unprepared..
Are you on Facebook? There is a vegan dietitian who works with Dr. McDougall on FB. His name is Jeff Novick… If you friend him you can go to his photos section and he has a bunch of great recipes there the photo album is entitled MY SIMPLE RECIPES… I use his recipes all of the time.. they are quick to make, taste good and follow this plan too.
The Engine 2 diet also has a FB page which I follow.
Good luck with your journey.
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9:11 pm June 11, 2011
| mangopaco
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My wife and I like to double the E2 soup recipes and freeze some for later. That way we always have some soup available – no need for canned or boxed stuff that has things you're trying to avoid.
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8:25 pm June 14, 2011
| Kevin4000
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Jeff Novick has confirmed for me that to the best of his knowledge there is no oil in these soups. He recommends the low sodium version, and suggests using half of the packet (for the instant soups in the cup). Thanks to Jeff Novick for responding, and to thatcrazyvegan for suggesting I contact Jeff.
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4:56 am October 26, 2011
| turtle4health
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Post edited 5:09 am – October 26, 2011 by turtle4health
The McDougle Soups have No Oil but are High in Sodium . Even the 25% less sodium version of the McDougle Soups are still high in sodium. The Imagine and Pacific Brand Broths all contain Oil.. The brands should not be recommended . All it takes for anyone to read a label to know that these soups contain oil. Anyone that says these soups do not contain oil have not read the ingredient labels.. Rip should remove the Imagine and Pacific Brand Soups from the recommended list .
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5:40 am October 26, 2011
| Firmly Planted
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Good morning all,
Although I am familiar, to some extent, with both the Imagine and Pacific brand soups as to looking at them in the store and looking at ingredients, I have not bought them so I don't have the labels on hand to look at. However, whether or not they should (or could – it's always an individual choice) be included as part of Rip's plan lies not in whether or not there is any oil in the product, but whether or not that ingredient contributes more than 25% of the total calories, according to Rip (or 20% if you follow the advice of Jeff Novick or 10% if you are following Dr. E).
Now perhaps when posters here say they contain oil – that really means they exceed these limits and if so, please don't trouble yourself with the point I am making. However, the way I read this post it left me thinking that readers don't think we are supposed to eat anything with any oil in it. For packaged items we are just supposed to read the label and do the math.
As for milk being in a product – yeah, that is off limits entirely.
Sort of as a sideline, but it is pertinent to this discussion, I think it's also helpful if people remind themselves that, although this is a board for E2, which is Rip's program, many who read and post here follow Dr. E's plan. Dr. E and Rip applaud that, I am sure. But Dr. E will readily admit he has a stricter view (no more than 10% of calories from fat) so Rip's approved food lists would always be a bit different…but this IS an E2 board – so making clarifications of these issues as we go might be helpful for new readers. I started reading the posts here when I had only read E2 and I was confused. I have since gone to an Immersion and read Dr. E's book. Now I don't get confused so much when I read things that can seem rather contradictory early on.
Have a great Wednesday, Ann.
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8:37 pm November 5, 2011
| deadlysweet
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Any reason why Amy's Kitchen soups are unacceptable for the E2 plan? I'm in a small town in the East Coast and don't have a Whole Foods or anything fancy of that nature. Our soup options are very limited.
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3:11 am November 18, 2011
| dianeygirl
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Anything that I've ever sean from Amy's has always got oils and fats in it. I have read label after label on her products and have never been able to purchase any ever since I've followed Dr E's plan.
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